Hoops_Legend Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 But Next season is the pivotal season for the Tim Miles era.... Regardless what situation we are in right now for every basketball coach in the MAJOR CONFERENCE level yr 4 in your tenure is the make or break season rather your trending up or on the hot seat in season 5. It is what it is fellas.... I have been Tim Miles guy from day one but what has happened in 13 months since the lost Baylor is really disappointing and disturbing. How have we fallen so fast??? How do you go from winning 10 out of 12 and 4th in the toughest conference in College Basketball to 13 wins "13" no way does that happen to anybody. Now were in a situation where we need to relay on 3 or 4 Freshmen to start or play 25 mins in year 4 that should never happen. WE ARE NOT KENTUCKY that's way too much pressure on those kids coming in the play that amount minutes in the BIG TEN. Plus we are hoping that AW3 produces 18-19pts per game no way once again too much pressure for a guy that has not played that much. After looking over the last three years under Miles the first two recruiting classes really hurt Miles he made several mistakes and missed out on several Bigs over the years and now it really hurting us. (Mike Edwards, Deng Deng, Isaac Haas, Akoy Agau (Twice). Lets face it guys Jacob Hammond is still not ready I really don't know if he ever will be. What I just don't understand is how with all these misses in a big man that teams like Rutgers, Penn St, Northwestern..ETC end up with decent not great big man. I would kill for the Northwestern guy or I would love to have at least one those 7ft penn st guys. Wouldn't you??? Miles has needed a true center since day one he has yet to find one. Leslee Smith (No Knees) average at best, Moses No hands no real threat at all, Vucetic never played, Ubel Average. My intention is not to bash Miles at all I am just really worried we are slipping away into Barry Collier years and the goal is NIT. I dont want that for this program. The Good news is the Recruiting class from fall signing is very exciting and alot of potential for the future and Miles has got a good staff so we move on and hope that the freshmen coming in this year Gel and do the unexpected and reach the NCAA or at least the NIT. GOOOO BIIIIG REEEEED!!!! The Banana Stand, hskr4life and gobigredbrah 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortDust Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'll what until this class plays at least half a season before I start to think his seat will get warm. Yes last season was disappointing, but stuff happens. If he tanks again this year things could get a little interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskerCager Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 It's not pivotal in the sense that they need to win X number of games or else. This guy deserves a long, long rope. Something longer than what Doc and Barry had, and they didn't have short ones. That doesn't mean there shouldn't be expectations. But as long as Miles' program:- keep the arena reasonably full (10K+ average attendance/game)- graduate players (who stick around through career's end)- don't break the rules- demonstrate a an ability to adjust their recruiting strategy as neededThen I would give him 10 years, if needed, to become a consistent winner. Fact is, I don't think anyone can turn the program around if he cant. Silverbacked1 and Bugeaters1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwback Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Under Coach Miles the team has delivered one above expectations season, one far above expecations season (the best NU season in 2 decades), and one well below expectations season in the best conference in the country. Nowhere near enough to consider him on the hot seat or facing even a pivotal season. Certainly there have been some disappointments recently, but Coach Miles was given a 7-year contract for a reason. Noah121, jaimes2000 and Bugeaters1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortDust Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Oh I believe that he will be granted all of those 7 years. I think that some people are jumping the gun on the warm seat so soon. Doc and Barry never made the tournament and lasted 6 years. He's got 2 more years before his butt starts to warm. Unless there is some sort of scandal or something super drastic. HB and jaimes2000 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swan88 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 If you hate to say it, don't. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Norm Peterson, Red Rum, Neebraska and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 If you hate to say it, don't. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Probably a sage bit of advice. Bugeaters1, Noah121 and Silverbacked1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbacked1 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Let's see wasn't just a year ago we were wringing are hands and beating our breasts and nashing our teeth about Tim leaving for greener pastures. hummmmmmmmm... Bugeaters1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hskr4life Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 The overall tone of this post was negative... Frankly, I do not know why this thread was created. 1. In no way is Tim on the hot seat 2. In no way is next year a "pivotal year" 3. This year was a down year yes... and using your words "it is what it is." 4. Some kids handle that pressure better than others... we (you and I and everyone) have no clue as to how those Freshman will step up to the challenge. 5. How quickly we forget that Petteway came from a crap Texas Tech team and averaged squat when he played. Whose to say a guy that averaged about the same at Kansas won't do the same? Again... we don't know how AW3 will step up to the big stage. 6. Missing out on guys (them not committing here) are not MISTAKES. Mistakes would of been not offering or taking a big that wanted to come here. You can't force a guy to come here. 7. The Barry Collier comment speaks for itself... not true at all. 8. You try and end it with some positive, but the negatives of the post far outweigh the positive, so they didn't do anything for me. The overall tone of the piece pinched my nerve from the get go, and I fail to understand the logic that people use to say a coach is on the hot seat that took a notoriously bad basketball program to the NCAA's after one down year..... seriously? Are we being serious right now? Silverbacked1, Red Don and Bugeaters1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcdave Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Taylor Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'll be honest, at this point in the Doc regime, I had serious doubts that he'd ever put a good roster together. That's not the case here. TM's recruiting seemingly got such a boost from last season that I think it quite likely he'll put together a big winner in the next few years, not just a one-year illusion like 2013-14. And that will allow the building to continue. Miles' resume was of a slow builder and that's what you're seeing. Osborne didn't hire the quick fix. AuroranHusker and Neebraska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmykc Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I try to adhere to the Thumperian Principle, " If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up: Name those 6 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb5856 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up:Name those 6 players. Congrats, Norm. I believe you just hit the nail on the head. And without naming names, let's just say that the program would not be better if most of those players that left had stuck it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up: Name those 6 players. I think that is a good point. Of course, isn't the flipside to that coin that there are issues with recruiting and evaluation of kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbacked1 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Dimes what is this like this guys 23 rd thread started with a negative vibe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcmatt Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Dimes what is this like this guys 23 rd thread started with a negative vibe? I thought we were in STATE OF THE PROGRAM OFFSEAON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason2486 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up:Name those 6 players. I'm confused by this. Are you including TP as one of those 6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up:Name those 6 players. I'm confused by this. Are you including TP as one of those 6? Yep. He's leaving to do what many around here have exhorted him to do: Turn pro. No shame in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Peterson Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up: Name those 6 players. I think that is a good point. Of course, isn't the flipside to that coin that there are issues with recruiting and evaluation of kids. I suppose that's one way you could look at it. The other is ... He had no real time at all to find players to fill out the roster when he snagged Surgej and Deverell (but in that same timeframe kept the two best Doc recruits out of a 5 player class and also found two transfers who were instrumental in our NCAA tourney run.) He assembled the November signing class within a short recruiting window and only has had one of those three players leave, which happened to be a kid who contributed as a freshman and who might have contributed even more this year had he not decided to seek greener pastures. Then, this year, had two guys turn pro and a kid who appeared to have a lot of upside decide to leave the program because his family wasn't happy about his playing time. Yeah, I mean, that's all kinds of worrisome if you think about it that way, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason2486 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up:Name those 6 players. I'm confused by this. Are you including TP as one of those 6? Yep. He's leaving to do what many around here have exhorted him to do: Turn pro. No shame in that. Gotcha, I took it as "Look at the 6 who left, all are replaceable". One of the problems with trying to interpret a message board Thanks Norm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swmckewon Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up: Name those 6 players. Sergei Vucetic Nate Hawkins Deverell Biggs Walter Pitchford Tarin Smith Terran Petteway The other 5 whom Miles recruited who have stayed Leslee Smith Moses Abraham Tai Webster Nick Fuller Jacob Hammond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swmckewon Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up: Name those 6 players. I think that is a good point. Of course, isn't the flipside to that coin that there are issues with recruiting and evaluation of kids. I suppose that's one way you could look at it. The other is ... He had no real time at all to find players to fill out the roster when he snagged Surgej and Deverell (but in that same timeframe kept the two best Doc recruits out of a 5 player class and also found two transfers who were instrumental in our NCAA tourney run.) I can't even remember who the 5th guy was. Parker, Shields, Alihodzic, Big Keith and who? Incidentally, Corey Hilliard just finished up at San Francisco as a role player and Josiah Moore will be a senior at Tennessee Tech where he should start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb5856 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 It is semi concerning that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up, one way or another. We can't afford turnover if it's not guys going to the NBA. Hopefully that is past us now because frankly, we have some highly touted kids coming in and frankly, we can't keep losing guys in bunches prior to graduation if we hope to get back to 2013-2014 anytime soon. I know a way for you to be less concerned that 6 of 11 players Miles has recruited have left the program prior to eligibility being up:Name those 6 players. I think that is a good point. Of course, isn't the flipside to that coin that there are issues with recruiting and evaluation of kids. I suppose that's one way you could look at it. The other is ... He had no real time at all to find players to fill out the roster when he snagged Surgej and Deverell (but in that same timeframe kept the two best Doc recruits out of a 5 player class and also found two transfers who were instrumental in our NCAA tourney run.) I can't even remember who the 5th guy was. Parker, Shields, Alihodzic, Big Keith and who? Incidentally, Corey Hilliard just finished up at San Francisco as a role player and Josiah Moore will be a senior at Tennessee Tech where he should start. Jerran Young. How could you forget his epic verbal commitment via Twitter? Neebraska 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajb5856 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Here it is. Couldn't find the original tweet but here is a retweet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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