Which is of these Major conference resumes would be acceptable?

[swmckewon]

I've selected 10 Power Five/major conference coaching resumes. Without the names of the teams or the coaches -- you can try to figure them out if you like -- which ones (from none of them to all of them) would be acceptable to you at Nebraska, and why? 

 

And no - none of the below profiles are Miles, Doc, Nee or Collier. 

 

I'm just curious about expectations.  

 

Profile 1 

9 seasons

192-114

2 NCAA Tournaments - 2-2 record

5 NITs - 2 NIT Final Four appearances.

1 Conference Tournament title; 0 regular season titles

 

Profile 2

14 seasons

293-165

6 NCAA Tournaments - 4-6 record

5 NITs - 1 NIT Final Four appearance

3 Conference Tournament titles; 1 regular season title

 

Profile 3

5 seasons

108-67

3 NCAA Tournaments - 1-3 record

1 NIT

1 Conference Tournament title; 0 regular season titles

 

Profile 4

7 seasons

143-91

5 NCAA Tournaments - 1-5 record

1 NIT

No conference tournament titles; 0 regular season titles

 

Profile 5

13 seasons 

262-153 

7 NCAA Tournaments - 6-7 record

4 NITs

1 Conference tournament title - 1 regular season title

 

Profile 6 

6 seasons

136-64

3 NCAA Tournaments - 3-3 record 

1 NIT

1 Conference tournament title - 2 regular season titles 

 

Profile 7 

13 seasons

280-173 

4 NCAA Tournaments - 3-4 record 

5 NITs - 1 NIT Final Four 

1 Conference tournament title - 0 regular season titles 

 

Profile 8 

13 seasons 

270-159

6 NCAA Tournaments - 8-6 record 

2 NITs - 1 NIT Final Four 

3 Conference Tournament titles - 2 regular season titles 

 

Profile 9 

Six seasons

105-88

2 NCAA Tournaments - 0-2 record

1 NIT

0 Conference Tournament titles - 0 regular season titles 

 

Profile 10 

Six seasons

124-81

3 NCAA Tournaments - 1-3 record

2 NITs - 1 NIT Final Four

0 Conference Tournament titles - 0 regular season titles 

 

 

 

[Huskerpapa]

My expectation is not provided in your profiles Sam.  I am all about building a program, not just a team.  I believe once the program is built, then even greater expectations are available.  So in short, my expectation would look more like this (and this factors in the last two years:

 

Profile Huskercwg

6 seasons

138-62

5 NCAA Tournaments - 5-6 record

1 Conference Tournament title; 1 regular season titles

 

After six years, the number of NCAA tournament wins should grow and a few additional conference tournament and regular season titles should materialize

[swmckewon]

My expectation is not provided in your profiles Sam.  I am all about building a program, not just a team.  I believe once the program is built, then even greater expectations are available.  So in short, my expectation would look more like this (and this factors in the last two years:

 

Profile Huskercwg

6 seasons

138-62

5 NCAA Tournaments - 5-6 record

1 Conference Tournament title; 1 regular season titles

 

After six years, the number of NCAA tournament wins should grow and a few additional conference tournament and regular season titles should materialize

So none of the profiles were acceptable? 

[AuroranHusker]

 

My expectation is not provided in your profiles Sam.  I am all about building a program, not just a team.  I believe once the program is built, then even greater expectations are available.  So in short, my expectation would look more like this (and this factors in the last two years:

 

Profile Huskercwg

6 seasons

138-62

5 NCAA Tournaments - 5-6 record

1 Conference Tournament title; 1 regular season titles

 

After six years, the number of NCAA tournament wins should grow and a few additional conference tournament and regular season titles should materialize

So none of the profiles were acceptable? 

 

 

What CWG presented looks an awful lot like Profile 6, except the Big Dance expectation (3 NCAA's instead of CWG's 5). I'd say that Profile 6 looks pretty good as is...

[Norm Peterson]

Sam, the longer the tenure, the more I'd have to say "it depends."  Because if he's been there 9 seasons with 2 NCAAs several years apart sandwiched in between the 4 NIT berths like Herb Sendek (example #1), then I might not disagree with firing him.  He'd gone a long time at ASU without a bid, got one last year, but then followed it up with more mediocrity and no particular reason to believe he'll be hanging any banners in his arena any year soon.  So, that one?  Yeah, I'm probably down with axing him.

[hhcmatt]

Herb Sendek (example #1), 

 

I think #1 is Adam Kennedy.

 

FWIW I don't think this is meant to be a gotcha trap thread if anyone is wondering....like you don't end up with a coach from a team often vilified on this site.

[Norm Peterson]

Having said the above, my votes were based on the following rubric:

 

• Make the NCAA tourney at or close to half the time.
• Don't go 0-fer in the dance.  Win at least once in every 3 trips.
• Qualify for post season play 60% of the time.
• If your team qualifies for the dance close to but not quite half the time, or hasn't reached post-season at least 3 out of every 5 years, have you mitigated things by either:

a.  Winning conference titles; or

b.  Winning more NCAA tourney games?

[49r]

I guess I'm not certain what is the point of this exercise?

[Norm Peterson]

 

Herb Sendek (example #1), 

 

I think #1 is Adam Kennedy.

 

FWIW I don't think this is meant to be a gotcha trap thread if anyone is wondering....like you don't end up with a coach from a team often vilified on this site.

 

Ooops, my bad.  I knew Sendek was just fired after 9 seasons and had 2 NCAA tourney appearances and, I thought, 4 NITs.  But I figured I must have been off on the number of NITs.  Maybe I was.  But it's close to Sendek.  Just no cigar.

[AuroranHusker]

 

 

Herb Sendek (example #1), 

 

I think #1 is Adam Kennedy.

 

FWIW I don't think this is meant to be a gotcha trap thread if anyone is wondering....like you don't end up with a coach from a team often vilified on this site.

 

Ooops, my bad.  I knew Sendek was just fired after 9 seasons and had 2 NCAA tourney appearances and, I thought, 4 NITs.  But I figured I must have been off on the number of NITs.  Maybe I was.  But it's close to Sendek.  Just no cigar.

 

 

 

I think we're referring to Andy Kennedy & not the baseball second-baseman Adam...

[swmckewon]

I guess I'm not certain what is the point of this exercise?

I'm curious which coaching profiles fans see as acceptable. 

 

It's not at all a trap. It's a blind resume so as to remove the "oh, well, that's a good coach" factor that comes with names. 

[49r]

 

I guess I'm not certain what is the point of this exercise?

I'm curious which coaching profiles fans see as acceptable. 

 

It's not at all a trap. It's a blind resume so as to remove the "oh, well, that's a good coach" factor that comes with names. 

 

 

Okay.

[Huskerpapa]

I am not trying to be difficult.  My expectation is that we are now set up to build a consistant and top flight basketball program.  We should aspire to be in the NCAA tournament each year.  We should aspire to compete in the upper level of the Big Ten each year.  We should start winning recruiting wars more often than losing them.  We should never be happy about the NIT and certainly we should never have to worry about making the post season.

 

I have been patient for a lot (I repeat a lot) of years.  Supposedly it is difficult to recruit here.  That has to end.  We have the fan base, we have the arena, we have the practice palace, we have the weight and nutrition programs, we have the academic support, we have the money, we have the conference tie, we have the coach...I am not going to imply that we had "the best" players under Danny, but man, look at the rosters back then, we can should get top tier talent here, and with next years group, it appears we may be making progress. 

 

So again, I do have higher expectations...sorry, but I do.

[atskooc]

All are acceptable but number 9. Once we win a tournament game the acceptance level will change.

[Chuck Taylor]

All are acceptable but number 9. Once we win a tournament game the acceptance level will change.

Exactly. Make the tournament, win a freakin' game. Any resume with that is acceptable now..

[trickey]

My expectation is not provided in your profiles Sam.  I am all about building a program, not just a team.  I believe once the program is built, then even greater expectations are available.  So in short, my expectation would look more like this (and this factors in the last two years:

 

Profile Huskercwg

6 seasons

138-62

5 NCAA Tournaments - 5-6 record

1 Conference Tournament title; 1 regular season titles

 

After six years, the number of NCAA tournament wins should grow and a few additional conference tournament and regular season titles should materialize

 

I like this coach's profile...Most impressive is that he must have influence since they kept his team in the tournament one year until they could lose 2 games! 

[swmckewon]

Profile No. 1 - Andy Kennedy, Ole Miss

Profile No. 2 - Rick Stansbury, Mississippi State (left three seasons ago, now an assistant at A&M

Profile No. 3 - Tad Boyle, Colorado

Profile No. 4 - Travis Ford, Oklahoma State 

Profile No. 5 - Connie Yori, Nebraska 

Profile No. 6 - Tony Bennett, Virginia 

Profile No. 7 - Leonard Hamilton, Florida State

Profile No. 8 - Lorenzo Romar, Washington

Profile No. 9 - Mark Fox, Georgia

Profile No. 10 - Tubby Smith at Minnesota

[hhcmatt]

Profile No. 5 - Connie Yori, Nebraska 

 

That would explain why I figured out all of them except for #5

[basketballjones]

I voted for three of them, but #5 through #8 and #2 were all that I liked. Similar to Norm's criteria, I looked for getting to the tournament around half the time and actually winning some games. And in a couple instances I valued winning the conference tournament higher than I did the regular season title because it says to me they have their squad tournament ready and playing well at the end of the year. Not sure who I'd say is my favorite out of that group.

#3 and #4 really surprised me, I always had then idea in my head that Colorado and Oklahoma State faired well in the tourney a few times. Really surprised me that they only have two tourney wins between the two. Especially with Okie State's talent they've had.

I was also surprised to see #7 Leonard Hamilton has only been to the tourney 4/13 of his seasons. In my head I've always chalked him up as being one of the bests.... When your perceptions see the numbers, eh?

Interesting post, Sam!

[basketballjones]

I am not trying to be difficult. My expectation is that we are now set up to build a consistant and top flight basketball program. We should aspire to be in the NCAA tournament each year. We should aspire to compete in the upper level of the Big Ten each year. We should start winning recruiting wars more often than losing them. We should never be happy about the NIT and certainly we should never have to worry about making the post season.

I have been patient for a lot (I repeat a lot) of years. Supposedly it is difficult to recruit here. That has to end. We have the fan base, we have the arena, we have the practice palace, we have the weight and nutrition programs, we have the academic support, we have the money, we have the conference tie, we have the coach...I am not going to imply that we had "the best" players under Danny, but man, look at the rosters back then, we can should get top tier talent here, and with next years group, it appears we may be making progress.

So again, I do have higher expectations...sorry, but I do.

Definitely no need to apologize for that post. Although I'd say if after year 6, if Tim Miles has done exactly what Tony Bennett has done at Virginia, we would have named the state after him and our mile markers would be called "Miles Markers," and have a goofy picture of him on there.

2009–10 Virginia 15–16 5–11

2010–11 Virginia 16–15 7–9

2011–12 Virginia 22–10 9–7 NCAA Second Round

2012–13 Virginia 23–12 11–7 NIT Quarterfinals

2013–14 Virginia 30–7 16–2 NCAA Sweet Sixteen

2014–15 Virginia 30–4 16-2 NCAA 3rd Round

That's skme amazingly consistent growth and development as a program. Disappointing finish to this year for them, but nonetheless.

[Dead Dog Alley]

On ‎3‎/‎27‎/‎2015 at 2:12 PM, swmckewon said:

I've selected 10 Power Five/major conference coaching resumes. Without the names of the teams or the coaches -- you can try to figure them out if you like -- which ones (from none of them to all of them) would be acceptable to you at Nebraska, and why? 

 

And no - none of the below profiles are Miles, Doc, Nee or Collier. 

 

I'm just curious about expectations.  

 

Profile 1 

9 seasons

192-114

2 NCAA Tournaments - 2-2 record

5 NITs - 2 NIT Final Four appearances.

1 Conference Tournament title; 0 regular season titles

 

Profile 2

14 seasons

293-165

6 NCAA Tournaments - 4-6 record

5 NITs - 1 NIT Final Four appearance

3 Conference Tournament titles; 1 regular season title

 

Profile 3

5 seasons

108-67

3 NCAA Tournaments - 1-3 record

1 NIT

1 Conference Tournament title; 0 regular season titles

 

Profile 4

7 seasons

143-91

5 NCAA Tournaments - 1-5 record

1 NIT

No conference tournament titles; 0 regular season titles

 

Profile 5

13 seasons 

262-153 

7 NCAA Tournaments - 6-7 record

4 NITs

1 Conference tournament title - 1 regular season title

 

Profile 6 

6 seasons

136-64

3 NCAA Tournaments - 3-3 record 

1 NIT

1 Conference tournament title - 2 regular season titles 

 

Profile 7 

13 seasons

280-173 

4 NCAA Tournaments - 3-4 record 

5 NITs - 1 NIT Final Four 

1 Conference tournament title - 0 regular season titles 

 

Profile 8 

13 seasons 

270-159

6 NCAA Tournaments - 8-6 record 

2 NITs - 1 NIT Final Four 

3 Conference Tournament titles - 2 regular season titles 

 

Profile 9 

Six seasons

105-88

2 NCAA Tournaments - 0-2 record

1 NIT

0 Conference Tournament titles - 0 regular season titles 

 

Profile 10 

Six seasons

124-81

3 NCAA Tournaments - 1-3 record

2 NITs - 1 NIT Final Four

0 Conference Tournament titles - 0 regular season titles 

 

 

 

 

Bumping this thread from three years ago from thepandatangent.  Add:

Profile 11

Six Seasons

97-97

1 NCAA Tournament - 0-1 record

1 NIT - 0-1 record

0 Conference Tournament titles, 0 regular season titles

 

[Huskerpapa]

Tough to think about this right now...but Profile 8 looks good.

[colhusker]

On 3/27/2015 at 4:15 PM, swmckewon said:

I'm curious which coaching profiles fans see as acceptable. 

 

It's not at all a trap. It's a blind resume so as to remove the "oh, well, that's a good coach" factor that comes with names. 

I see an article coming! 

[swmckewon]

1, 4, 8, 9 and 10 have all been fired. Connie as we all know resigned for reasons unrelated to the W-L ledger. 

 

Miles' record is most like Mark Fox, the profile that received the least amount of votes. 

 

Fox, just fired, finished 163-133, with 2 NCAA (0-2) and 3 NITs in 9 seasons. 

 

When I originally posted it, I did so really as a kind of test on fan expectations - what fans say their expectations are and what they actually are based on their actions. (Going to games, message board postings, tweets, letters to editors, etc.)

[Ben Zobrist]

At this point, give me every profile except #9 so that when we are attempting to build a program up from the ground, we don't have to have the "never won an NCAA tournament game" monkey on our back. Seriously, why did Northwestern have to win and make us the only power five conference team without a tourney win ? But yeah, I agree with almost everyone else's sentiment that you want to see more from your program once they start to establish themselves and build consistency.