big red22 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Smith is shooting .467(.360 behind the arc) and Fuller is shooting .520(.375 behind the arc) If Petteway(.409 and .318 behind the arc) would give up 3-4 to Smith, and Pitchford (.382 and .293 behind the arc ) would give up 3-4 for Fuller we would be more balanced and would open up the floor for Shields and Petteway to do what they do best get to the rim Let those two help our team damnit!!! It will make for more of a complete team, and make both of them feel more comfortable in their abilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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big red22 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 If it were only that easy... If shots aren't falling for Petteway, Fuller and Smith should be able to step up and make up for the crap Petteway has to put up with. Design some play for them. If they start designing plays for them like they do for Webster, Shields, Pitchford and Petteway. Stuff will happen They need more damn touches. Numbers don't lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles ahead of the rest Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 I'm not sure we can really look at Fuller's shooting stat's with complete confidence in saying they're relevant considering the very limited number of shot's he's taken this season due to lack of playing time. Do I think he can knock those shot's down and be a much bigger contributor right now than he has been? Yes, but he's shooting 52% on the season is a little inaccurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big red22 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 If it were only that easy... Let me make this real easy Shields has shot "79" 3's and has mad 15 Smith and Fuller together have shot "33" 3's and made 12 3's don't have to be shot by Shields, Pitchford and Petteway. If they let them shot 5 more 3's a game we would be a better team... it is that simple. 3's don't require you to be that athletic, and they are better at it then the 3 mentioned above Petteway, Shields and Pitchford = "397" 3 point attempts and have made "113". That is 28.5% Smith and Fuller = "33" 3 point attempts and have made "12" That is 36.6% 397 attempts is 76.6% of all the 3 point attempt by our team. If you add in Tai W. that is 48 more and he has made 10 (20.8%) and his attempts bring the total to 445 and 85.9% of the total amount of 3's taken. That is ridiculous and a huge reason why we suck. Simple fact... as I have proof that I provided above. The wrong people are taking our 3's basketballjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Small sample size aside, the "wrong" people are taking all those threes because they are on the court....because they are our best players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miles ahead of the rest Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 If it were only that easy... Let me make this real easy Shields has shot "79" 3's and has mad 15 Smith and Fuller together have shot "33" 3's and made 12 3's don't have to be shot by Shields, Pitchford and Petteway. If they let them shot 5 more 3's a game we would be a better team... it is that simple. 3's don't require you to be that athletic, and they are better at it then the 3 mentioned above Petteway, Shields and Pitchford = "397" 3 point attempts and have made "113". That is 28.5% Smith and Fuller = "33" 3 point attempts and have made "12" That is 36.6% 397 attempts is 76.6% of all the 3 point attempt by our team. If you add in Tai W. that is 48 more and he has made 10 (20.8%) and his attempts bring the total to 445 and 85.9% of the total amount of 3's taken. That is ridiculous and a huge reason why we suck. Simple fact... as I have proof that I provided above. The wrong people are taking our 3's Make no mistake, Fuller and Smith are both allowed to shoot those 3's. They both choose not to shoot as much as they maybe should Silverbacked1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hal9000 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 A couple points. I agree that I want to see them taking more shots. Smith and Fuller (among others) have turned down plenty of shots from outside. Also, I've seen plenty of times on dribble drive where Terran or Shavon could have kicked it back out to an open [insert players name here] but didn't. That said, it doesn't mean I want Terran, Shavon, or Walt to stop shooting. They have to shoot their way out of their funk. I'd still rather have the ball in their hands at the end of the shot clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroranHusker Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Well, if you want to use stats, here a couple to keep in mind from the past couple games: Nick is 2-for-3 on threes lately (both vs MD) while Tarin is 3-for-3 on threes lately (all vs tOSU). Kind of skews the statistical breakdown of their 3-ball percentages, doesn't it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49r Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Man, it's gonna be a LOOOOOOONG offseason around here isn't it? basketballjones, Silverbacked1 and Red Don 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brfrad Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Last year those 3 shot 35 % from behind the arc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huskerpapa Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 The passes are made, and the shots are turned down. Why is TP or Shavon taking any heat (other than their shot % will hopefully improve) Silverbacked1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hskr4life Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Man, it's gonna be a LOOOOOOONG offseason around here isn't it? We still got two more weeks of season man... and thats if we don't make a magical run! Imagine what threads are going to be like a week from now! "Trevor Menke needs to take more threes because he has made three of them this year!" 49r and Silverbacked1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atskooc Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Man, it's gonna be a LOOOOOOONG offseason around here isn't it? We still got two more weeks of season man... and thats if we don't make a magical run! Imagine what threads are going to be like a week from now! "Trevor Menke needs to take more threes because he has made three of them this year!" I approve of this message. basketballjones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneblinstu Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 All we've heard all year is that Fuller is the best *eligible* shooter on the roster. IF that's true, then of course he needs to get more shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverbacked1 Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 but they need to shoot when they have the ball and they ain't so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhcmatt Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well, if you want to use stats, here a couple to keep in mind from the past couple games: Nick is 2-for-3 on threes lately (both vs MD) while Tarin is 3-for-3 on threes lately (all vs tOSU). Kind of skews the statistical breakdown of their 3-ball percentages, doesn't it??? Two games ago Tarin was a 25% 3pt shooter and Fuller has attempted eight 3 pointers on the year. They have extremely small sample sizes. Smith is shooting .467(.360 behind the arc) and Fuller is shooting .520(.375 behind the arc) If Petteway(.409 and .318 behind the arc) would give up 3-4 to Smith, and Pitchford (.382 and .293 behind the arc ) would give up 3-4 for Fuller we would be more balanced and would open up the floor for Shields and Petteway to do what they do best get to the rim Let those two help our team damnit!!! It will make for more of a complete team, and make both of them feel more comfortable in their abilities At this point our best approach would be figuring out how to score while taking as few 3pt shots as possible. I don't know if T. Smith nor Fuller nor anyone can consistently knock down a 3pt shot, but overall I agree with your overall thought that Shields and Petteway should make hay down in the paint and everyone else should be positioned or utilized to make that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uneblinstu Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 but they need to shoot when they have the ball and they ain't so... They've been more willing lately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroranHusker Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well, if you want to use stats, here a couple to keep in mind from the past couple games: Nick is 2-for-3 on threes lately (both vs MD) while Tarin is 3-for-3 on threes lately (all vs tOSU). Kind of skews the statistical breakdown of their 3-ball percentages, doesn't it??? Two games ago Tarin was a 25% 3pt shooter and Fuller has attempted eight 3 pointers on the year. They have extremely small sample size Exactly my point. Percentages are a crazy web we weave. Recall at one time some thought Benny Parker was our best 3-ball shooter because he'd hit close to 50% at that point in the season. He's now at just less than 33%. Fact of the matter Nebraska doesn't have a "currently eligible" three-point shooter who's great. I'd venture to say there also hasn't been any particular player who's consistently good, either, this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickey Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well, if you want to use stats, here a couple to keep in mind from the past couple games: Nick is 2-for-3 on threes lately (both vs MD) while Tarin is 3-for-3 on threes lately (all vs tOSU). Kind of skews the statistical breakdown of their 3-ball percentages, doesn't it??? Two games ago Tarin was a 25% 3pt shooter and Fuller has attempted eight 3 pointers on the year. They have extremely small sample size Exactly my point. Percentages are a crazy web we weave. Recall at one time some thought Benny Parker was our best 3-ball shooter because he'd hit close to 50% at that point in the season. He's now at just less than 33%. Fact of the matter Nebraska doesn't have a "currently eligible" three-point shooter who's great. I'd venture to say there also hasn't been any particular player who's consistently good, either, this season. Well, I will nit-pick with you a bit as I think we have a very decent three point shooter who has had his %ages skewed by being passed the ball continually with five seconds or less left on the shot clock and nothing to do. Once we have multiple threats on the court next year, I believe we will watch the %age rise again...perhaps by 10%+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroranHusker Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well, if you want to use stats, here a couple to keep in mind from the past couple games: Nick is 2-for-3 on threes lately (both vs MD) while Tarin is 3-for-3 on threes lately (all vs tOSU). Kind of skews the statistical breakdown of their 3-ball percentages, doesn't it??? Two games ago Tarin was a 25% 3pt shooter and Fuller has attempted eight 3 pointers on the year. They have extremely small sample size Exactly my point. Percentages are a crazy web we weave. Recall at one time some thought Benny Parker was our best 3-ball shooter because he'd hit close to 50% at that point in the season. He's now at just less than 33%. Fact of the matter Nebraska doesn't have a "currently eligible" three-point shooter who's great. I'd venture to say there also hasn't been any particular player who's consistently good, either, this season. Well, I will nit-pick with you a bit as I think we have a very decent three point shooter who has had his %ages skewed by being passed the ball continually with five seconds or less left on the shot clock and nothing to do. Once we have multiple threats on the court next year, I believe we will watch the %age rise again...perhaps by 10%+. This season, no. But generally I agree with ya, trickey. Andrew White III, Pitch & Petteway are all better shooters than the others mentioned & the stats will bear that out next year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Don Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Smith is shooting .467(.360 behind the arc) and Fuller is shooting .520(.375 behind the arc) If Petteway(.409 and .318 behind the arc) would give up 3-4 to Smith, and Pitchford (.382 and .293 behind the arc ) would give up 3-4 for Fuller we would be more balanced and would open up the floor for Shields and Petteway to do what they do best get to the rim Let those two help our team damnit!!! It will make for more of a complete team, and make both of them feel more comfortable in their abilities I was just looking at player statistics for the upcoming game. One of the statistics huskers.com highlighted for probable starter Leslee Smith is: 51.4% for Field Goals! Lets get it to Leslee more! (His average PPG? 2.9 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroranHusker Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Smith is shooting .467(.360 behind the arc) and Fuller is shooting .520(.375 behind the arc) If Petteway(.409 and .318 behind the arc) would give up 3-4 to Smith, and Pitchford (.382 and .293 behind the arc ) would give up 3-4 for Fuller we would be more balanced and would open up the floor for Shields and Petteway to do what they do best get to the rim Let those two help our team damnit!!! It will make for more of a complete team, and make both of them feel more comfortable in their abilities I was just looking at player statistics for the upcoming game. One of the statistics huskers.com highlighted for probable starter Leslee Smith is: 51.4% for Field Goals! Lets get it to Leslee more! (His average PPG? 2.9 ) And, besides, Dave Rivers will be starting for Leslee, who has lingering soreness in his surgically repaired knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PimpMario Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yeah I agree that Miles needs to design some sets or plays for other players. It sometimes seems like Miles doesn't do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big red22 Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Yeah I agree that Miles needs to design some sets or plays for other players. It sometimes seems like Miles doesn't do that. Thank you! I love Miles, and I definitely think he is a coach that should be here for the long hall. With that said I also believe he needs to allow other to score. Why are others passing up shots? Sometimes I feel like Shields and Petteway are the Italians in Kicking and Screaming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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